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Bob Weir's Sweetwater Walk-Off Touches a Nerve

Short item about Grateful Dead legend's run-in with some jib-jabbers sets off a flurry of commentary about concert etiquette, and who exactly is to blame for its demise.

A few small steps off the stage, one giant leap over the cliff for concert etiquette.

That was the resounding consensus from the nearly 130 comments left on a short item we ran last week about Grateful Dead legend and Mill Valley resident Bob Weir walking off the stage of the Sweetwater Music Hall in the face of unrelenting crowd chatter.

Weir, who was playing a solo acoustic set prior to a performance by his new Ratdog Quartet, walked off angrily in the middle of a rendition of Bob Dylan’s “A Hard Rain’s a-Gonna Fall” on March 4. Weir had asked those engaged in extended conversation if he was interrupting them, and then said, "OK I give up. I'll be back up later with an electric band and we'll be loud enough and that will be that."

Weir was evidently still frustrated with those in the crowd who would not stay quiet, as he shouted “Shut the f**k up,” (see videos above) in the middle of the encore rendition of Bob Dylan’s “Knocking On Heaven’s Door.”

Tens of thousands of people clicked on the story, which set off a debate about a number of things, from whether Weir was justified in walking off to other examples of artists reaching the breaking point onstage.

But people mostly wanted to talk about who was to blame, and they weren't shy in spelling out the culprits. Some thought it was local residents:

John Brown wrote that "MV has been overrun with ***hole/frat boy investment bankers and attorneys, along with their Stepford wives and evil little spawn."

Julie wrote, "I think that in Mill Valley there is an enormous level of entitlement. By this I mean that I've gotten the impression that people here in town feel that they can behave in any way they want, whenever they want. Apparently this spills over into their behavior during a live performance, that even they have paid for!"

According to Melody, it was "Ignorant, arrogant yuppie scum. They wouldn't know great music if it smacked them in their investment portfolios."

Others said the chatter came from out-of-towners. Hannah wrote, "This is completely not an issue of 'Mill Valley entitlement.' A lot of the audience was from out of town anyway."

Mickey Mouth said, "More indications that the new generations are becoming a nation of self-centered jerks with no respect for others. Narcissism reigns."

And Fred Glave blamed hip-hop: "People today have no clue what music is. They've been inundated with rap, hip hop and the culture that goes with it to the point where this is what's to be expected. This is the way people are now. Pretty soon the word respect will not even be a word in the dictionary.

Jake Owens brought politics into the fray: "Because people in California are rude. It was not like that back in the 70's 80's. The good people left Cali in the 90's. Now it is all liberal."

Brian O provided a little bit of relevant Grateful Dead history to the dialogue: "As the Dead were between songs many eons ago and building up to 'Cosmic Charlie' a loud audience member hollered: 'Make it loud!' Garcia's reply was 'Get f***ed.' I'm glad that Bob Weir is carrying on a great tradition of telling a**hats to shut up."

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McKgirl March 14, 2013 at 01:08 pm
To blame Hip Hop and Rap is ridiculous. We do have a generation of young people who are entitled and don't know how to behave because their parents never told them no, but that's not Hip Hop culture, that's wealthy white culture, and that is young Marin. I wasn't at this show, so I can't say who it actually was that was being rude, but I'm pretty sure it probably wasn't the hip hop or rap crowd at a Dead show. I was at a Charles Brown concert at Cafe Du Nord years ago, just before he died and the same thing happened where he had to repeatedly tell a younger (late 20s- who would be early 40s now) group in the audience to be quiet. You don't talk during theater, you don't talk during a symphony or an opera, you should show the same respect for all performers. If you want to go somewhere and have a chat go to a bar or restaurant, not a show.
Dyanne Ross March 14, 2013 at 05:25 pm
While I think that Weir was wrong to use obscenities like that, I think the problem is the venue and management's lack of responsibility. Generally people sitting at bars are there to drink, and drunk people are generally not the most quiet nor respectful audience, especially for an acoustic set. This is the case whether they're yuppies, bankers, or Dead Heads (who may have been stoned as well), and whether you're in Mill Valley, Fairfax, San Francisco, or anywhere else.
Jim Caldwell March 14, 2013 at 05:52 pm
Weir as part owner needs to understand that a low ceiling and mirrored-back bar will make noise regardless of the Meyer system. No excuses for louts but silence is not going to happen in that venue. Something to think about when adding up the night's bar receipts. If people were over the top lame, that's one thing, but hushed reverence requires a closed bar.

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