Are You Happy with Marin Clean Energy So Far?

If you're among the 95,000 customers of the upstart 'green' energy authority, tell us how it's going for you.

Here's question for Marin Clean Energy customers in Mill Valley: Notice a difference?

It's only been a short time since Pacific Gas and Electric customers were given an option, route: {:controller=>"articles", :action=>"show", :id=>"power-to-the-people-council-votes-to-join-marin-energy"} --> to stick with PG&E power or opt out and purchase power from the county's still-new joint powers authority that purchases a higher percentage of renewable energy. Although the city government has , customers were

Rico September 22, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Thank you Jim for clearing this up about the MEA brokerage fee (markup). And Tom, the reason that I asked the question about the additional costs by a customer being automatically switched to MEA is because I am not one who opted in, just like I never opted into PG&E's SmartMeter program. The question"are you happy with MCE so far" includes everyone who reads it, whether they actually fell for the automatic opt-in or not. And thank you Tom for your answer, your bill is higher now than before you had MEA. That makes sense, because anytime a middleman broker is added into the mix, the total bill will NEVER be less or equal to than before. My next question is , " is the PG&E bill only 9.4% more as Jim suggests ?", or, knowing the utility provider doing the billing, is it actually more than 9.4% . Knowing PG&E, they are going to find a creative way to make a profit off of any middlemen muscling in on any small part of their monopoly. My answer to the original question is " No, I am not happy with MEA at all, and I knew it would cost customers more so I did not opt-in". I posted this link before, but many may not have seen it. It explains in depth about the MEA/MCE/Shell Oil scam, as well as discussing many other energy issues that concern us all. www.solartimes.org
Jim Phelps September 22, 2012 at 07:28 PM
I feel bad about how MEA's polluted the promise of community choice aggregation. Weak leadership and a complex business... trapped themselves with impossible “clean” promises. MEA’s total cost for "generation" is 9.4% more expensive than PG&E. Period. Generation is all that MEA sells. MEA ratepayers and PG&E ratepayers pay identical amounts for transmission, distribution, DWR bonds, CTC, etc. When those unbundled components are rolled up into the total bundled bill, MEA obscures its premium in the math. But make no mistake, MEA residential ratepayers pay 9.4% premium for their generation and their generation is the EXACT SAME electrons that everybody else gets, including PG&E ratepayers. MEA is a feel-good tax, just as RECs are a feel-good scam as Pete Adams notes, above. The EPA is lost in RECs just as it’s lost in MEA's "green" landfill resources. MEA is now on the hook for $117 million in landfill gas contract obligations, while the Sierra Club concludes landfill resources INCREASE greenhouse gases. It’s very sad what MEA is doing. http://millvalley.patch.com/blog_posts/meas-conflict-with-the-sierra-club-d04d611f
Larry Bathgate September 23, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Ricardo, I live in Tam Valley and have the same experience as MillValleyMom..our electricity is used only for lights, microwave, refrigerator, and electronic devices and we typically use about 320 kwh each month during the summer. In the winter, we use more lighting of course, with additional juice going to power the heater fan. But we don't have aircon which I'm sure makes a big difference.
B George October 13, 2012 at 07:10 PM
"Tom," Shame on Marin Energy for letting this faleshood stand without responding to your post! MEA charges 6.9 cents, PLUS exit fees, PLUS surcharge fees for a total of 7.74 cents. PG&E charges 7.07 cents per kilowatt hour. These flat rates apply to the "Generation" line of your total electric bill. Tiered pricing still applies to everyone. You pay 10% MORE for Marin Energy Authority's "generation." MEA's RECs are NOT "in the state." They're in Washington and Oregon. You're getting the exact same energy as your neighbor gets from PG&E... except you're paying 10% more for it.
Kevin Moore October 30, 2012 at 03:50 PM
There is one upside to MEA, it gives PG&E something to worry about when considering rate increases. The rest is not so good. Shell Energy gave MEA a great contract to get into the Marin energy market. We will see how good a deal they get in the next contract negotiation. That might be when I switch back to PG&E. IMHO, the REC credits are just an expensive feel good scam and the FTC should force energy companies to disclose when they are being used to "clean up dirty energy". Neither PG&E, nor MEA really seem interested in giving the consumer a direct comparison in rates. Confused people simply give up and pay what ever is charged. Our county supervisors, who created MEA, seem to be unwilling to force a easy to understand table to be created.


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